So perhaps the question might be, what would have to be true for these 3 goals not to be as opposing as it might seem?apod wrote: With regard to cognitive function / energy, I feel great on a high fat / very low carb diet (but it seems like LDL-P, LDL-C, and TC goes up.) On the other hand, I seem to respond quite well to reducing SFA / upping carbohydrates (LDL-P goes down, LDL-C goes down, HDL-C doesn't dip too much, TG stays low), but I lose some of the low-carb mental / energy magic. And then.. looking at protein, I respond very well to hypercaloric servings of carbs+proteins for adding lean mass + strength, but theoretically I don't think this is optimal when thinking about longevity / gene expression. So, I find myself in a sort of limbo at times with 3 somewhat opposing goals.
Hello! I have some burning questions for the ApoE4ers...
Re: Hello! I have some burning questions for the ApoE4ers...
Russ
E3/4
Eat whole, real, flavorful food - fresh and in season... and mix it up once in a while.
E3/4
Eat whole, real, flavorful food - fresh and in season... and mix it up once in a while.
Re: Hello! I have some burning questions for the ApoE4ers...
Some of the most important words ever spoken on this forum....DaveKeto wrote:
I feel better than I ever have in my life since going ketogenic. While I likewise had an emotional response in reaction to my LDL-C and -P initially, I've learned and have tested enough to find that there's another compelling explanation for me (at least for now, still researching as many counterpoints as I can find).
But I'll say this -- don't underestimate your body's hormonal signaling when balanced on low inflammation dieting. As in, trust your instincts when you feel great *persistently*. Like me, you're responding to scary numbers that should certainly draw your attention, but shouldn't create doubt against the "data" you're body's providing you internally.
Russ
E3/4
Eat whole, real, flavorful food - fresh and in season... and mix it up once in a while.
E3/4
Eat whole, real, flavorful food - fresh and in season... and mix it up once in a while.
Re: Hello! I have some burning questions for the ApoE4ers...
That's very gracious, thank you.Russ wrote:Some of the most important words ever spoken on this forum....DaveKeto wrote:
I feel better than I ever have in my life since going ketogenic. While I likewise had an emotional response in reaction to my LDL-C and -P initially, I've learned and have tested enough to find that there's another compelling explanation for me (at least for now, still researching as many counterpoints as I can find).
But I'll say this -- don't underestimate your body's hormonal signaling when balanced on low inflammation dieting. As in, trust your instincts when you feel great *persistently*. Like me, you're responding to scary numbers that should certainly draw your attention, but shouldn't create doubt against the "data" you're body's providing you internally.
I really can't emphasize persistently enough on this point. When you get a high from something, you can often create mental association that sticks around far more than the physical repercussions that follow. The obvious examples being alcohol, sugar and caffeine in excess. But if you're feeling great around the clock with no chronic physical illness -- that's what I'd call a powerful signal.
One of the most powerful things that happened to me when I went on this lifestyle change wasn't just the physical problems that disappeared (like GI issues, for example), but that I felt like I could really hear my body's responses to diet and exercise activity. As though a crucial messaging system was restored.
Re: Hello! I have some burning questions for the ApoE4ers...
Like we say in medicine treat the patient not the numbers.
I like to put myself in the group of those who feel really stable and well persistently (unless I seriously cheat with loads of cake and chocolate), with George, Russ, Dave and others not on this thread yet.
.....the thing is what about those members who don't feel well? Now that is the interesting point for me.....they can be eating and doing exactly the same as those that feel well. Complexity!!!
I like to put myself in the group of those who feel really stable and well persistently (unless I seriously cheat with loads of cake and chocolate), with George, Russ, Dave and others not on this thread yet.
.....the thing is what about those members who don't feel well? Now that is the interesting point for me.....they can be eating and doing exactly the same as those that feel well. Complexity!!!
Re: Hello! I have some burning questions for the ApoE4ers...
Thanks so much for sharing, really looking forward to your findings. I'm new here, recently discovered I was APOE E4/E4 after I got genetic testing to verify I had hereditary hemochromatosis (must have hit the genetic lottery ).
Simon
ε4/ε4
ε4/ε4
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I'm with Simon on the lottery and looking forward to learning more.
Chris
E4/E4
Alameda, CA, USA
E4/E4
Alameda, CA, USA
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I like that saying as well, and yet I feel we're getting further away from it rather than closer. So many doctors look for the bolded text on the blood labs and prescribe against it, then move on to the next 15m session.Stavia wrote:Like we say in medicine treat the patient not the numbers.
I like to put myself in the group of those who feel really stable and well persistently (unless I seriously cheat with loads of cake and chocolate), with George, Russ, Dave and others not on this thread yet.
But not a bad thing -- just like above, there should be genuine interest in finding what the code to solve it really is.Stavia wrote:.....the thing is what about those members who don't feel well? Now that is the interesting point for me.....they can be eating and doing exactly the same as those that feel well. Complexity!!!
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Yip - that's what many are trying to do on this forum. Just nobody is anywhere near you in terms of mathematical rigour!
Re: Hello! I have some burning questions for the ApoE4ers...
You don't know the half of it. And yet, I can think of so much more data I want to be collecting that would probably add a lot more value to my analysis. (sigh)Stavia wrote:Yip - that's what many are trying to do on this forum. Just nobody is anywhere near you in terms of mathematical rigour!
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Hi again guys--
Sure enough, as promised, this morning I finally posted the first in the series on my data with regard to cholesterol.
I have some interesting stuff I'm exploring on how much (or how little) the ApoE4 factors into the degree of cholesterol concentration which I'll have in a later posting.
Sure enough, as promised, this morning I finally posted the first in the series on my data with regard to cholesterol.
I have some interesting stuff I'm exploring on how much (or how little) the ApoE4 factors into the degree of cholesterol concentration which I'll have in a later posting.