Wading in slowly
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:41 pm
Hello, all. I have been comforted to find this site and dipping in here and there. Stavia, thank you for the primer, and everyone, thank you for all your contributions. Your knowledge is awe-inspiring. And intimidating.
I am APOE 4/4.
My journey started almost two years ago with my doctor telling me to "get your triglycerides down." I was not technically overweight, but I was getting close, and not happy with myself. I did get the triglycerides down, and my cholesterol too-- I am no longer taking any medication for that, and I am no longer pre-diabetic. In searching for low carb recipes, I found the Paleo folks, and then stumbled on Dr. Gundry (loved his advice, have a year's supply of some of his supplements, blocked his marketing department). I enjoy the new way I am eating--though I can tell y'all are going to mess with that--and have lost 20 lbs in the course of a 18 months (did I mention I am wading in slowly?) and now have a BMI of around 22-point-something, but yes, still too big a waist--but does having lost 2 inches in height from degenerative disc disease affect that? I have difficulty finding my waist these days. And it used to rival Scarlett O'Hara's, back in the day. Sigh.
Reading that inflammation could be conquered gave me new motivation. I once listed my chronic "-itis" diagnoses for my own amusement and came up with ten or twelve, so inflammation is a problem. Because I had a special trip coming up and was worried about sleeping in hard beds, I got much more serious about the diet as I understood it, and devoured The Plant Paradox when it came out. I am now off all the pain medication I was taking, except for one acetaminophen maybe once every two or three weeks. I still have some chronic pain. I have recently started taking a Meriva (curcumin) supplement. I do want to find a way to get rid of the rest of this irritating inflammation. The only way I know it's better is that I am no longer taking prescription pain meds almost every night. I do take B12 and D3, a multiple vitamin, and Krill Oil, as well as estradiol. When insomnia strikes, as it has lately, I take Melatonin. I gave up Benedryl (diphenhydramine ) every night. I would prefer a glass of A2 milk, which would work as well, but I have sadly given that up as well.
A few months ago, I had the genetic tests done from 23 and Me, and interpreted by Self-Decode. I was discouraged to learn my APOE status, but not entirely surprised. My mother died from congestive heart failure but with dementia, which I was convinced from my studies (I was a high school teacher-then-guidance counselor) was Alzheimers. I pre-ordered Dr. Breseden's book and have read it and continue to try to digest it. I do have questions--none of the many octogenarians on my Dad's side had memory issues, except my grandfather at 85, and he had had a series of TIA's--did one of those 4's have to come from my father? Is it the same for alleles as for genes? And does my 4/4 mean each of my children has at least one copy of APOE4? There may be a thread on this somewhere. I need to know more before I decide whether to share my status with my children. They just think I am a nice nut on a strange diet.
I heard somewhere, probably on a podcast, a doctor say that he didn't care what doctor's diet you followed, but to follow only one. That struck me as good advice, so I have put Dr. Gundry's book aside for now and am trying to follow Dr. Bredesen. I am not very disciplined but was already following most of the diet and loving it. I don't mind fasting for 12-14 hours, almost every day. I do sometimes cheat, primarily when foods I used to love find their way into my house (with my husband's help, bless his heart) or I am a guest. I endeavor to be a guest as often as possible--I remind myself that in Old Testament times, fasts were prescribed, but so were feasts. I am not exercising as much as I should, but some, and generally know what to do, and just need to find consistency. It must be lying around somewhere! I was an enthusiastic if not particularly talented athlete when young and love being active and outdoors. We live out in the woods, ya'll, and gyms aren't easily accessible, thank goodness, but hills are. And in all seriousness, I do continue to get better at this lifestyle. I'm wading deeper into the water. Or climbing higher up the hill!
For me, the wealth of information is confusing, and I do better to tackle it in chunks. I have always tested well and been considered quite bright, always loved to learn, but at the same time was always, always teased by my friends and family for being absent-minded, (they had other words for it) so it's a bit hard to sort out how much of the memory issues I am noticing might be early signs of disease. I am occasionally alarmed by some weird thing I do, but no one else who knows me notices. I am almost 71, so I think maybe I've avoided the early onset form. I did volunteer for an Alzheimer's trial two years ago, and made it through all the initial testing, and was told I did not show signs of memory loss beyond what was expected for my age. They rejected me, only because I had had a melanoma (in situ) removed. Even so, when I opened the wrong cabinet door looking for a glass, in the house I've lived in for 12 years, I was startled.
I hope I convince my internist to order and monitor the blood work. He is at this point skeptical of any program not supported by rigorous, clinical, non-anecdotal research. I have given him a copy of Dr. Bredesen's book, but last time I was in he had not yet read it, and may not. He's an amazing physician and brilliant, and he loves to keep up with research, but he's also busy and suspicious of any program which sells books. If he is not willing to work with me, I will have to find a health coach or some practitioner who will help, and in my area of the United States (the South, can you tell?), it appears that will be difficult. I don't know if I can sort through and monitor blood test results on my own, even though I did read I can find a lab and private pay.
I have a question that is pressing, if you are still reading? I have been having some seemingly-unrelated health issues for the last several months, mostly GI. An attack of what was probably diverticulitis, which was acute and awful (I couldn't sleep and I couldn't move, so I passed the night trying to decide if it was better or worse than childbirth) but went away after a few hours. There were other random uncomfortable episodes, for weeks before and after. Mild pain here and there, chest and abdomen, but none on the right side. My internist ordered various tests and has determined my gall bladder is poorly functioning (ejection fraction 30, if I have the term correct). No gallstones showed up. No pain in the region of my gallbladder. I've seen a surgeon, who looked me up and down (endoscope and colonoscopy), found mild gastritis but nothing more to worry about, and has me on a PPI. His initial stance is that removing my gall bladder probably won't make me feel better. Two years ago, I had a nissen fundoplication after 12 years of 120 mg a day of PPI's, supported by way too many 24 hour pH studies, was doing well, and am not happy about going back on a PPI. I am to meet with the surgeon again next week, and might be able to push for surgery. My question is, does anyone know if gall bladder disease, if that's what it is, could be causing any other the other inflammation issues I have, or conversely could be caused by general inflammation? Would it potentially help my chances with the APOE4/4 if I talk him into removing it? Which would mean anesthesia for the fifth time in three years, another concern. Except for the fundoplication, minor things, light anesthesia. But still. Or is 30% gall bladder function better than no function? And do gall bladders ever get better? My thyroid function is not in the optimal range. Would thyroid supplementation potentially help gall bladder function? My internist has not been open to prescribing thyroid while I test in the normal range, even though it is low normal. I took 1 gram of natural thyroid for 20+ years, initially prescribed by an endocrinologist for infertility, and never discontinued until I read it might cause my bones to thin out, and took myself off of it. I have to admit I didn't notice a difference at the time.
Thank you for reading this far. I've tried to condense the last two years, but goodness, I was an English teacher. I write! That's how I handle stress. Any thoughts will be much appreciated.
I am APOE 4/4.
My journey started almost two years ago with my doctor telling me to "get your triglycerides down." I was not technically overweight, but I was getting close, and not happy with myself. I did get the triglycerides down, and my cholesterol too-- I am no longer taking any medication for that, and I am no longer pre-diabetic. In searching for low carb recipes, I found the Paleo folks, and then stumbled on Dr. Gundry (loved his advice, have a year's supply of some of his supplements, blocked his marketing department). I enjoy the new way I am eating--though I can tell y'all are going to mess with that--and have lost 20 lbs in the course of a 18 months (did I mention I am wading in slowly?) and now have a BMI of around 22-point-something, but yes, still too big a waist--but does having lost 2 inches in height from degenerative disc disease affect that? I have difficulty finding my waist these days. And it used to rival Scarlett O'Hara's, back in the day. Sigh.
Reading that inflammation could be conquered gave me new motivation. I once listed my chronic "-itis" diagnoses for my own amusement and came up with ten or twelve, so inflammation is a problem. Because I had a special trip coming up and was worried about sleeping in hard beds, I got much more serious about the diet as I understood it, and devoured The Plant Paradox when it came out. I am now off all the pain medication I was taking, except for one acetaminophen maybe once every two or three weeks. I still have some chronic pain. I have recently started taking a Meriva (curcumin) supplement. I do want to find a way to get rid of the rest of this irritating inflammation. The only way I know it's better is that I am no longer taking prescription pain meds almost every night. I do take B12 and D3, a multiple vitamin, and Krill Oil, as well as estradiol. When insomnia strikes, as it has lately, I take Melatonin. I gave up Benedryl (diphenhydramine ) every night. I would prefer a glass of A2 milk, which would work as well, but I have sadly given that up as well.
A few months ago, I had the genetic tests done from 23 and Me, and interpreted by Self-Decode. I was discouraged to learn my APOE status, but not entirely surprised. My mother died from congestive heart failure but with dementia, which I was convinced from my studies (I was a high school teacher-then-guidance counselor) was Alzheimers. I pre-ordered Dr. Breseden's book and have read it and continue to try to digest it. I do have questions--none of the many octogenarians on my Dad's side had memory issues, except my grandfather at 85, and he had had a series of TIA's--did one of those 4's have to come from my father? Is it the same for alleles as for genes? And does my 4/4 mean each of my children has at least one copy of APOE4? There may be a thread on this somewhere. I need to know more before I decide whether to share my status with my children. They just think I am a nice nut on a strange diet.
I heard somewhere, probably on a podcast, a doctor say that he didn't care what doctor's diet you followed, but to follow only one. That struck me as good advice, so I have put Dr. Gundry's book aside for now and am trying to follow Dr. Bredesen. I am not very disciplined but was already following most of the diet and loving it. I don't mind fasting for 12-14 hours, almost every day. I do sometimes cheat, primarily when foods I used to love find their way into my house (with my husband's help, bless his heart) or I am a guest. I endeavor to be a guest as often as possible--I remind myself that in Old Testament times, fasts were prescribed, but so were feasts. I am not exercising as much as I should, but some, and generally know what to do, and just need to find consistency. It must be lying around somewhere! I was an enthusiastic if not particularly talented athlete when young and love being active and outdoors. We live out in the woods, ya'll, and gyms aren't easily accessible, thank goodness, but hills are. And in all seriousness, I do continue to get better at this lifestyle. I'm wading deeper into the water. Or climbing higher up the hill!
For me, the wealth of information is confusing, and I do better to tackle it in chunks. I have always tested well and been considered quite bright, always loved to learn, but at the same time was always, always teased by my friends and family for being absent-minded, (they had other words for it) so it's a bit hard to sort out how much of the memory issues I am noticing might be early signs of disease. I am occasionally alarmed by some weird thing I do, but no one else who knows me notices. I am almost 71, so I think maybe I've avoided the early onset form. I did volunteer for an Alzheimer's trial two years ago, and made it through all the initial testing, and was told I did not show signs of memory loss beyond what was expected for my age. They rejected me, only because I had had a melanoma (in situ) removed. Even so, when I opened the wrong cabinet door looking for a glass, in the house I've lived in for 12 years, I was startled.
I hope I convince my internist to order and monitor the blood work. He is at this point skeptical of any program not supported by rigorous, clinical, non-anecdotal research. I have given him a copy of Dr. Bredesen's book, but last time I was in he had not yet read it, and may not. He's an amazing physician and brilliant, and he loves to keep up with research, but he's also busy and suspicious of any program which sells books. If he is not willing to work with me, I will have to find a health coach or some practitioner who will help, and in my area of the United States (the South, can you tell?), it appears that will be difficult. I don't know if I can sort through and monitor blood test results on my own, even though I did read I can find a lab and private pay.
I have a question that is pressing, if you are still reading? I have been having some seemingly-unrelated health issues for the last several months, mostly GI. An attack of what was probably diverticulitis, which was acute and awful (I couldn't sleep and I couldn't move, so I passed the night trying to decide if it was better or worse than childbirth) but went away after a few hours. There were other random uncomfortable episodes, for weeks before and after. Mild pain here and there, chest and abdomen, but none on the right side. My internist ordered various tests and has determined my gall bladder is poorly functioning (ejection fraction 30, if I have the term correct). No gallstones showed up. No pain in the region of my gallbladder. I've seen a surgeon, who looked me up and down (endoscope and colonoscopy), found mild gastritis but nothing more to worry about, and has me on a PPI. His initial stance is that removing my gall bladder probably won't make me feel better. Two years ago, I had a nissen fundoplication after 12 years of 120 mg a day of PPI's, supported by way too many 24 hour pH studies, was doing well, and am not happy about going back on a PPI. I am to meet with the surgeon again next week, and might be able to push for surgery. My question is, does anyone know if gall bladder disease, if that's what it is, could be causing any other the other inflammation issues I have, or conversely could be caused by general inflammation? Would it potentially help my chances with the APOE4/4 if I talk him into removing it? Which would mean anesthesia for the fifth time in three years, another concern. Except for the fundoplication, minor things, light anesthesia. But still. Or is 30% gall bladder function better than no function? And do gall bladders ever get better? My thyroid function is not in the optimal range. Would thyroid supplementation potentially help gall bladder function? My internist has not been open to prescribing thyroid while I test in the normal range, even though it is low normal. I took 1 gram of natural thyroid for 20+ years, initially prescribed by an endocrinologist for infertility, and never discontinued until I read it might cause my bones to thin out, and took myself off of it. I have to admit I didn't notice a difference at the time.
Thank you for reading this far. I've tried to condense the last two years, but goodness, I was an English teacher. I write! That's how I handle stress. Any thoughts will be much appreciated.