Hi all and a question to clarify my ApoE status

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Hi all and a question to clarify my ApoE status

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Hi everyone,

I'm new to this forum but have been aware of the ApoE status issue for a while. Just checking, from reading the introductory primer, I searched my 23andme raw data (which I had done about 6 years ago) for the two variants and got this:

rs7412 19 45412079 CC
rs429358 19 45411941 CT

So, even though the table lists the second allele as "TC", does this still mean that my status is e3/e4?

Thanks for any guidance,
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Re: Hi all and a question to clarify my ApoE status

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Cat Smit wrote:Hi everyone,
I'm new to this forum but have been aware of the ApoE status issue for a while. Just checking, from reading the introductory primer, I searched my 23andme raw data (which I had done about 6 years ago) for the two variants and got this: rs7412 19 45412079 CC and rs429358 19 45411941 CT So, even though the table lists the second allele as "TC", does this still mean that my status is e3/e4?
Welcome to the forum, Cat Smit! My name is Rachel and I am a support team intern here on the site. You have already been doing some research and have asked a good question! Are you looking for clarification that the "TC" and "CT" being reversed still leads to the same conclusion? That is a very good observation and I will let someone who knows the answer for sure chime in with a reply. :D

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Re: Hi all and a question to clarify my ApoE status

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Cat Smit wrote:Hi everyone,

I'm new to this forum but have been aware of the ApoE status issue for a while. Just checking, from reading the introductory primer, I searched my 23andme raw data (which I had done about 6 years ago) for the two variants and got this:

rs7412 19 45412079 CC
rs429358 19 45411941 CT

So, even though the table lists the second allele as "TC", does this still mean that my status is e3/e4?...
Hi Cat,
Yes, the results are the same; the convention has evolved to list this as CT. Approximately 25% of people with European ancestry have one copy of the ApoE 4 allele, which suggests that it has beneficial effects as well as late-life risks. As your health coach background teaches, the more we learn about how to manage other risks (vascular, metabolic, inflammatory, infectious etc.) the more we dial down our risk.
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Re: Hi all and a question to clarify my ApoE status

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Cat Smit wrote:Hi everyone,

I'm new to this forum but have been aware of the ApoE status issue for a while. Just checking, from reading the introductory primer, I searched my 23andme raw data (which I had done about 6 years ago) for the two variants and got this:

rs7412 19 45412079 CC
rs429358 19 45411941 CT

So, even though the table lists the second allele as "TC", does this still mean that my status is e3/e4?
My interpretation is if you have one CT and one CC, you are ε3/ε4. The order doesn't matter.
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Re: Hi all and a question to clarify my ApoE status

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Thank you for your replies Rachel, NF52 and Tin Cup, much appreciated. When I had a look at the data a few years ago (before I knew about this resource) and I thought the way I had interpreted the data meant that I was e3/e4, I was pretty anxious about that, especially as there is a family history of heart disease and diabetes and ?dementia (dementia not formally diagnosed in my grandparents) in my great grandparents, grandparents and parents. I am grateful to have some understanding of epigenetics from the FMCA course that I completed in February and also from listening to Bruce Lipton's Biology of Belief just last week. It's good to be informed and to find out more about the preventative measures that I can employ and also inform myself for any future clients with these related health concerns. Thank you to everyone here for your support and for all the information, which I will slowly get through!

By the way, is there any association between ApoE status and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome? Recovering from that has been my health journey for quite a long time (60-70% recovered from fatigue and 95% recovered from multiple chemical sensitivities).

Thanks again,
Cat
p.s. Strangely, in the original post it said I didn't have the authority to view that table that you attached to your reply, Tin Cup, but when I used the editor to reply, I could see the table, just to let people know....
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Cat Smit wrote:p.s. Strangely, in the original post it said I didn't have the authority to view that table that you attached to your reply, Tin Cup, but when I used the editor to reply, I could see the table, just to let people know....
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Ok, now I understand. Thanks.
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Cat Smit wrote:p.s. Strangely, in the original post it said I didn't have the authority to view that table that you attached to your reply, Tin Cup, but when I used the editor to reply, I could see the table, just to let people know....
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