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Re: NMR Data Sample

Postby Stavia » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:01 pm

Its was atorvastatin 20mg and it did that in two weeks!

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Re: NMR Data Sample

Postby Sandraz » Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:02 am

That seems a high starting dose with TC already under 200. Without knowing what your LDLp is, you wouldn't even really know if you needed to lower your LDL. Can you get APO b level? Here, I don't think doctors would put anyone on a statin with LDL of 120 unless other risk factor like heart attack or diabetic. Not sure of exact guidelines. Why did you go on statin? I would love numbers like yours (not on statin numbers that is)!

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Re: NMR Data Sample

Postby Russ » Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:02 am

Stavia - Your response to statins was similar to my Dad's (also 3/4). It was VERY effective at driving down LDL… driven by a Dr with 'lower is better' mentality, it went to 27 at 80 mg/d before I figured it out (I didn't even know he was on it).
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Re: NMR Data Sample

Postby Ski » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:06 am

I too had the brain fog on Bergamot, which acts like a statin. I probably had it for around 3 months in addition to poor executive function (which came before the brain fog)..... but the brain fog is HORRIBLE! The stories I could tell ya!
No muscle aches though. Mine also took around 4 weeks to clear.

Now Lipitor is known to be one of the biggest culprits. Pravachol and Crestor are the only 2 hydrophilic statins, so not be able to cross the BBB as easily. So those are one of the two Id definitely try first. I did read a study where they did find the drug in the CNS I believe but at much lower concentrations that the lipophilic statins like Simvastatin. Lipitor etc.

Oh, and having experienced that brain fog, if thats what ALZ is like, once Ive started, I think I will go back to carbo-loading and pizza as cardiac arrest may be a blessing.

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Re: NMR Data Sample

Postby Sandraz » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:54 am

At least you'd get to go happy with all those comfort foods on board! I like that possibility. What a yummy way to go. HAha. :lol:
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Re: NMR Data Sample

Postby Stavia » Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:57 pm

Sandraz wrote:That seems a high starting dose with TC already under 200. Without knowing what your LDLp is, you wouldn't even really know if you needed to lower your LDL. Can you get APO b level? Here, I don't think doctors would put anyone on a statin with LDL of 120 unless other risk factor like heart attack or diabetic. Not sure of exact guidelines. Why did you go on statin? I would love numbers like yours (not on statin numbers that is)!

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Sandraz: we can't do NMR in my country, neither can we do APOb. The neurologist number one panicked, he also saw my old lipid numbers when I was on a high protein high carb body builder-type diet. He worked on the paradigm of lowering overall CVD risk as much as possible. He didn't know what he was really doing, neurologist number two who is experienced in this area agreed for me to stop it (I already had). Was an idiotic thing to do in the first place, but I didn't know anything then and thought the professor should know....


Skibike: yip I subsequently found out that pravastatin is best hydrophillically-wise. SIgh. And as to terminal event - I figure I will go into a haze and someone will give me a sulphite containing food and I'll die from anaphylaxis. Not a bad way to go quickly.

Russ: yeah, I was astounded at the speed of the response. I put heaps of diabetic and IHD patients on statins all the time, I've actually never seen anyone's LDL plummet like this actually.


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