pgf54 wrote:Julie said
[quoteGeorge, fascinating to hear that niacin helps promote ketosis. That's new to me. Did either you or Ski catch that Dr. Dayspring was OPPOSED to niacin for our group? Does anyone understand his reasoning why? I haven't taken the time to look into any of this; other than note the discrepancy between his advice and Gundry's.
Due to recent major clinical trial evidence, never use niacin except as a 4th line drug - way, way, way too many metabolic side effects. Unlike ezetimibe (Zetia) niacin worsens the absorption of sterols
Whilst other medications are aimed at lowering ldl and tc i think Niacin is the only one proven to increase hdl in addition[/quote]
I'm guessing Dayspring is referring to the studies, such as the one last July (2014). This is from Gundry's support group:
I think this is the what Gundry is talking about: http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/meeting_abstract/124/21_MeetingAbstracts/A16318 where he talks about needing grape seed extract and pycnogenol. Thursday, I ordered another Lp-PLA2 test to see what the niacin is doing to mine. It will be a topic of discussion when I have my call with Gundry.Q: Just saw the results of this study today and wonder if Dr. Gundry will continue to recommend the use of Slo-Niacin as a supplement to complement the diet. Have been taking it but of course now second guessing myself
Steven Gundry: Oh nonsense! I was the discusser if this study at the American Heart Association. The bad effects of Niacin appeared when it was combined with an antihistamine that had been shelved because of severe side effects. Duh, I wonder what happened when they reintroduced it in combo form? Also, I reported at the American Heart Association that if you use niacin that it must have grape seed extract and pycnogenol to prevent the increase in blood vessel stickiness that niacin causes and that I discovered. Finally, these studies do not address that niacin is the only method of lowering Lp(a), the most sign infant cause of heart disease of any risk factor measured. Those of you with Lp(a), swallow your niacin!
My take is Dayspring is looking at the published data, and Gundry has worked to ameliorate the negative effects with grape seed extract and pycnogenol. Gundry's MO is to prescribe and retest in 3 months. I look at my taking of niacin as an experiment.