Surfrank57 wrote:George do you also take Magtein along with your di-mag?
Very interesting how you can keep afib at bay just with supplement, good for you.
Not sure if any other doc told you, but not so common to be able to do. You hear n=1 stories, but in reality most people fall back into meds.
Aloha Frank
Hi Frank - yes, I take Magtein, but its 96 mg of mag/day - a rounding error with the other mag I take. It is also a late addition to my routine. I've kept the afib under control since Nov of 2004 with mag, potassium and taurine. It is a routine I created. Two months into my afib journey, I had an episode that would not convert and lasted 2 1/2 months. One cardio told me digioxin was his favorite med. My afib has a vagal trigger. I knew that digioxin was toxic for vagal afib and refused to take it. He got tired of me and referred me to his EP partner. When I described my presentation to him, he said that "I was obviously vagal and there were certain meds he would not prescribe for me." That was a big step forward. After a Holter monitor session, he said, "you are doing well out of rhythm (<100 BPM in afib), why don't you stay that way." I said I wasn't happy about that and proposed a "Plan B." He would cardiovert me. I would try to keep myself in NSR with electrolytes and he would prescribe flecainide on demand. I would use a loading dose (300 mg) of flecainide to convert myself when the electrolytes failed. He agreed and I've been doing this ever since. I had to create the electrolyte routine myself. I used ECG and r to r recording heart rate monitors to iterate and titrate the electrolytes to a formula that works for me. I also detrained, as chronic fitness was my path to afib. My mantra is now the "minimum effective dose." I avoid any long duration cardio training. I'm still very active. I do HIIT as well as bodyweight training using programs designed for military special operators. I know that long duration, high heart rate cardio activities can be a trigger, so I minimize them. In the last 3 years, I've only used flecainide twice. It generally converts me in 1-2 hours. I also found out that excess calcium consumption from food made my system much less stable. On my LCHF diet, I was stress eating wheels of brie during my divorce. My normally good afib control diminished significantly. It took me 18 months to figure out it was the calcium. Once I quit the cheese, my excellent control returned.
I'm very aware that most can't follow my lead. I've participated in a lone afib forum online for most of my afib time. Some have certainly been able to do this, but many can't. There are several reasons - one is people are different, one is that I think there is a point of no return, if one waits too long, there is too much remodeling that has occurred, lastly most aren't diligent to not miss a dose of mag and don't seem to understand taking it to bowel tolerance. I know if I miss, afib will result. When we did a two week paddle raft trip down the Grand Canyon, I took about two pounds of mag with me and never missed a dose.
apod wrote:GeorgeN wrote:leucine+methionine are what both Drs. Rosedale and Gundry are looking to avoid, because they activate mTOR and spike IGF-1.
Hmmm... I'll be curious to hear what Attia comes up with if he ever gets around to publishing his ideas on balancing longevity / performance. Combining carbohydrate restriction with protein restriction, light calorie restriction, and exercising fasted with large fasting windows, I'd imagine that I would soon see the transition from a paleo sprinter physique to that of a vegan marathoner. Tricky.
I'm curious -- Do you get a taste or a feeling in your lungs when you're in deep ketosis? In the past, whenever I would drink alcohol... even just a couple beers, I could feel it on my breath, and I get a very similar sensation with ketones above 1mmol (with an occasional 'taste') that doesn't seem to really disappear, so much as I get used to it.
At 100g carbs it seems to break down to ~50g fiber, with the remaining 50g likely containing a good amount of RS. Yesterday, I did an easy jog (~2mi), a few sets of bodyweight dips, weighted pullups, and threw in a few reverse pyramid deadlift sets starting at 240lbs... then, I ate breakfast around the 18hr fasted mark (with these 25g of net carbs coming from cooked+cooled+oil soaked+oil topped vegetables where my two largest sources of dietary sugar seem to be coming from pistachios and macadamia nuts.) With more carbohydrates, it's a similar diet for me, but I can eat much larger salad bowls worth of plants. I'll be curious to see how this affects the next round of lipid testing, where I should have a pretty good idea of what seems to work for me, then I can ease up on the tracking or look to other metrics.
I'm not calorie restricted and my fiber is mostly from nuts, non starchy veggies (very large salads) and RS - typically at least 50g, with 80-90g total carbs and 60 g protein with 20 g from animal sources - I don't track it often. Also, most is raw, except for the steamed asparagus and less frequent yuca fries or plaintain fries or pancakes. I do fast 22 hours/day. I'm 6'0", 175#, 60 years old and my body fat is estimated at 12-13% from the US Defense Department correlations. My waist is 33" and I don't have the "vegan marathoner" look - I've got relatively tree trunk thighs and well developed arms and shoulders.
I don't really notice any difference between 0.5 mmol/L and 5.6 mmol/L in how I feel. Some talk about how much better their brain works & etc. I don't notice that. I can go as long as I want without eating and exercising fasted is what I always do. I ski the steeps hard at 11-13,000' non-stop for 6-7.5 hours a couple of times a week. I rock climb for 5 hours. I can fatigue my muscles (mostly because of lack of skill with both climbing & skiing), but I don't need to eat for energy.
As to lipids, Gundry wants our sdLDL 30mg/dl or less and I can do that on this diet - I do follow his instruction to avoid animal fat with the only animal protein being shellfish (preferred), white fish or omega3/pastured eggs and this is limited to 20g of protein/day (about a 4 oz serving). He reports all the NMR particle count lipids, but ignores them, saying their purpose is to make people want to take statins...