Stavia's Vegetarian very low fat trial

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Re: Stavia's Vegetarian very low fat trial

Postby CarrieS » Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:40 am

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Re: Stavia's Vegetarian very low fat trial

Postby NonnaEgea » Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:33 pm

So cool to be self experimenting! I am so looking forward to your summary and comments.
I have been practicing IF for last 3 years and mostly LCHF. A niece who is vegan came to visit for 3 weeks so obviously we all indulged more vegan than other, which surprisingly felt great and I have continued for last six months since her departure. I am planning to get a lipid panel and A1C to determine additional benefits (hopefully).

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Re: Stavia's Vegetarian very low fat trial

Postby GLS18 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:17 pm

NonnaEgea wrote:So cool to be self experimenting! I am so looking forward to your summary and comments.
I have been practicing IF for last 3 years and mostly LCHF. A niece who is vegan came to visit for 3 weeks so obviously we all indulged more vegan than other, which surprisingly felt great and I have continued for last six months since her departure. I am planning to get a lipid panel and A1C to determine additional benefits (hopefully).


Hi again NonnaEgea!

Thanks for sharing and I am glad that you are feeling great. What foods have you incorporated and removed following a vegan diet as opposed to a LCHF diet?

Wishing you well with your experimentation and please keep us posted!
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Re: Stavia's Vegetarian very low fat trial

Postby NonnaEgea » Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:51 am

Sorry, I took so long to reply. I have not been religious, but am eating less meat, but alas too many carbs. Much to my disappointment, i have put on weight (about 5 lbs) and my bloodwork is not significantly better LDL192, HDL64, Total 283, TriG 135. Aig 4,1, fasting Glucose 2,51. I am confused and struggling with the weight issue. I do daily fasts every now and then, I do intermittent fasting every day. Never eating before 11 (mostly 1p. to 5 or 6 pm, but still weight will not come off. Not sure why. Too many carbs? Intermittent fasting not good for me?
At least, it seems my insulin is not a problem.

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Re: Stavia's Vegetarian very low fat trial

Postby kimberlamb » Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:17 pm

Very curious if there's any update on this?

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Re: Stavia's Vegetarian very low fat trial

Postby NF52 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:03 pm

kimberlamb wrote:Very curious if there's any update on this?
Welcome, kimberlamb!

As "Stavia" the author of the initial post on her plan for a "vegetarian, very low fat trial" posted sometime in the last year or so "life gets in the way". She has a busier life than I do, since she's a physician with a busy family-medicine practice who also travels quite a bit. So I'm not sure if she ever did her "trial". That is meant not as a"punishment" but as a personal experiment to see whether we feel better or worse, or have improved sleep, thinking, energy etc. on a particular diet, exercise plan or supplements.

So while we don't have any update from Stavia, if you're interested in the role of "healthy fats" you may want to check out our Wiki, particularly the section on Fats, Omega 3 & 6, DHA and more. Stavia herself is the author of the Primer which has a great list and explanation of basic strategies that are likely to benefit all of us in our health and happiness!
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Re: Stavia's Vegetarian very low fat trial

Postby HopefulCaroline » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:49 pm

kimberlamb wrote:Very curious if there's any update on this?


kimberlamb,

Welcome to our community and Happy New Year! Although I can't add anything beyond what NF52 said regarding status of Stavia's 'vegetarian, very low fat trial' and pointing you in the direction of some great site resources such as the primer and wiki, I would like to welcome you and encourage you to share your story in the Our Stories section if you are so inclined. We'd love to get to know you better. The search function is also helpful for finding specific information across the site.

Please reach out if we can help further.

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Re: Stavia's Vegetarian very low fat trial

Postby Stavia » Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:50 am

Hi kimberlamb - no I never did it properly, it was just far too hard to work out the macros to fit with what is optimal for me. The protein was really difficult to get to 60 grams (which I find best for me) while keeping the carbs low enough and the fat high enough. All whole food vegetarian protein sources come mixed with a significant amount of carbs. I did start, but just couldnt keep the carbs low enough to stay in ketosis with whole food. And I wasnt going to just eat coconut oil or processed pea protein. I try really hard to only eat whole foods and it became apparant that my intent was impossible.
I can see how a traditional vegetarian/vegan diet works - it is easiest to do it with a diet that is low fat/high carb. And how they have become linked. But I need a bit of ketosis to be cognitively at my best.

But if anyone has tried...


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Re: Stavia's Vegetarian very low fat trial

Postby circular » Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:15 am

Stavia wrote:Hi kimberlamb - no I never did it properly, it was just far too hard to work out the macros to fit with what is optimal for me. The protein was really difficult to get to 60 grams (which I find best for me) while keeping the carbs low enough and the fat high enough. All whole food vegetarian protein sources come mixed with a significant amount of carbs. I did start, but just couldnt keep the carbs low enough to stay in ketosis with whole food. And I wasnt going to just eat coconut oil or processed pea protein. I try really hard to only eat whole foods and it became apparant that my intent was impossible.
I can see how a traditional vegetarian/vegan diet works - it is easiest to do it with a diet that is low fat/high carb. And how they have become linked. But I need a bit of ketosis to be cognitively at my best.

But if anyone has tried...


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Stavia, a valuable report indeed. You did the trial properly for you, and I suspect many others as well whose optimal eating pattern is much like yours :)
ApoE 3/4 > Thanks in advance for any responses made to my posts.

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Re: Stavia's Vegetarian very low fat trial

Postby zc_hl » Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:56 pm

Stavia wrote:Hi kimberlamb - no I never did it properly, it was just far too hard to work out the macros to fit with what is optimal for me. The protein was really difficult to get to 60 grams (which I find best for me) while keeping the carbs low enough and the fat high enough. All whole food vegetarian protein sources come mixed with a significant amount of carbs. I did start, but just couldnt keep the carbs low enough to stay in ketosis with whole food. And I wasnt going to just eat coconut oil or processed pea protein. I try really hard to only eat whole foods and it became apparant that my intent was impossible.
I can see how a traditional vegetarian/vegan diet works - it is easiest to do it with a diet that is low fat/high carb. And how they have become linked. But I need a bit of ketosis to be cognitively at my best.

But if anyone has tried...


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What did make you change your mind on the low fat part of this experimentation?

I believe that vegan/vegetarian should accomodate more easily with low fat than low carb.


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