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Postby Stavia » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:10 am

Jafa wrote:Stavia, Oats are good .. so I'm told Have a great time at the meetup. Looking forward to hearing all about it.
thanks Jafa. I will post summaries again like I did last year.

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Re: RE: Re: Stavia's Vegetarian very low fat trial

Postby ru442 » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:42 am

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slacker wrote:I'm sure you know that barley and rye have gluten in them. At this point you may not if it's gluten or the wheat itself that causes the problem. Non-GMO corn may be a "grain" option for you.
yup. I don't get migraines with Ryvita or barley in my soup. Weird. It's something in bread. Sourdough not as bad.

Corn not in season atm but will be in summer (5 months away.... I only eat local veggies and being two small islands, in my country, local means seasonal.)

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Sweet corn is in season now in the U.S. my dear, I'm sure you can grab some while at the conference? I know it's on the Grundry forbidden list, but I eat locally grown from the farms in our area. I figure it's fresh, unprocessed veggie and I don't have any adverse reaction to it.

Also for carbs, I've been adding organic basmati rice a couple times a week, it is just a wonderful nutty taste, with some tamara soy sauce or kimchi.
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Re: Stavia's Vegetarian very low fat trial

Postby Stavia » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:41 pm

Thanks RU. I dont follow Gundry's list so I do eat corn in summer. Im looking forward to Whole Foods....my favourite place in USA!!

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Re: Stavia's Vegetarian very low fat trial

Postby slacker » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:17 pm

Millet is also an option! And even though you don't follow Gundry's protocol, lectin free! Have a wonderful time...
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Re: Stavia's Vegetarian very low fat trial

Postby swampf0etus » Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:50 am

If there's one thing I'd recommend for making the veggie life easier (it's also great for meat) and less stressful, is to buy an Instant Pot electric pressure cooker. I bought one recently and it amazing. It's great for making big pots of stew, soap, curry, chilli, etc. You can then keep it in the fridge/freezer and heat it up throughout the week. I make a big batch and take it work and heat it for lunch throughout the week. Just means I don't have to spend every night chopping veg.

For cooking beans and lentils it's brilliant, as you can buy them dry and don't have to soak them. Instead, you just put beans on a 4 min high pressure cook and that's the same as an overnight soak! As dried legumes are SO cheap, it's incredibly economical. (of course, this depends on whether or not you've scared away from eating these foods based on Dr Grundy's pseudoscience around lectins).

As well as being a pressure cooker it is also a slow cooker, steamer, braiser, warmer, rice cooker and yogurt maker. Probably the best cooking gadget I've every bought. There's different versions of it and the cheapest version doesn't have the yogurt option, so that's probably better if you're not bothered about making yogurt.

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Re: RE: Re: Stavia's Vegetarian very low fat trial

Postby Stavia » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:16 am

swampf0etus wrote:If there's one thing I'd recommend for making the veggie life easier (it's also great for meat) and less stressful, is to buy an Instant Pot electric pressure cooker. I bought one recently and it amazing. It's great for making big pots of stew, soap, curry, chilli, etc. You can then keep it in the fridge/freezer and heat it up throughout the week. I make a big batch and take it work and heat it for lunch throughout the week. Just means I don't have to spend every night chopping veg.

For cooking beans and lentils it's brilliant, as you can buy them dry and don't have to soak them. Instead, you just put beans on a 4 min high pressure cook and that's the same as an overnight soak! As dried legumes are SO cheap, it's incredibly economical. (of course, this depends on whether or not you've scared away from eating these foods based on Dr Grundy's pseudoscience around lectins).

As well as being a pressure cooker it is also a slow cooker, steamer, braiser, warmer, rice cooker and yogurt maker. Probably the best cooking gadget I've every bought. There's different versions of it and the cheapest version doesn't have the yogurt option, so that's probably better if you're not bothered about making yogurt.


not available unfortunately in my small country far away...butbI do eat lectins. I don't believe they are a problem for me.

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Re: Stavia's Vegetarian very low fat trial

Postby Julie G » Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:15 am

Instead, you just put beans on a 4 min high pressure cook and that's the same as an overnight soak! As dried legumes are SO cheap, it's incredibly economical. (of course, this depends on whether or not you've scared away from eating these foods based on Dr Grundy's pseudoscience around lectins).

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Re: Stavia's Vegetarian very low fat trial

Postby swampf0etus » Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:33 pm

Juliegee wrote:Moderator cap on: Please be mindful of our Community Guidelines. We welcome a discussion surrounding Dr. Gundry’s interpretation of the science, but insist that you refrain from disparaging researcher's/practitioner's ideas that you disagree with.


I apologise if that sounded a bit harsh and offended anyone.

I'd not heard of Dr Gundry's work until I'd found these forums and, as I'd fell for a lot of the "science" in the low-carb/paleo world before, I thought I'd check him out and I couldn't find much evidence to support his theories and "science." There is a lot written about him and how he misrepresents the science and misleads, though.

But this is all very off-topic and I regret adding that sentence. I also regret cooking soap in my pressure cooker ;-)


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Re: Stavia's Vegetarian very low fat trial

Postby Julie G » Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:33 pm

Swamp, I appreciate that you're trying. By putting the word "science" in quotations, you're basically doing the same. Please carefully read our Community Guidelines before posting again. You are very welcome to express your POV in a respectful manner. You seem to have folks who agree with you. We'd like you to stick around. We also prohibit our members from disparaging Dr. Ornish's or Dr. Esselstyn's "science" in the same way. Please focus on the concepts you disagree with and explain why rather than labeling them as pseudoscience or "science."

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Re: Stavia's Vegetarian very low fat trial

Postby Stavia » Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:15 pm

Thanks for the apology Swamp. I appreciate your honest discussion and your passion.

Yes Gundry's theory about lectins has not been published in a peer reviewed journal but many other theories considered valid today started as ideas too.
There are some members who do feel unwell consistently when eating over an individual threshold of lectins and I personally respect their experience, even though I do not share their experience. Perhaps in the future double blinded studies will investigate this. Perhaps not. In the meantime I respect their choice. As I respect the choice of low fat vegans - enough to give it a go for 3 months. Its one of the reasons I am doing this - to show respect for the right of everyone to chose.

I'm not doing it because I have suddenly had an epiphany that my low carb-high fat -(low protein, low saturated fat and already mainly veggies) diet is evil and I've seen the light - I'm doing it because I'm curious, I think its one of a number of appropriate options and I want to cross the divide I'm seeing amongst our members, I'm hoping it will give me a new target to work on, and I'm hoping my asthma will settle (but the latter is probably my dogs in our bed according to the hospital specialists)

I'm also getting a little annoyed that members think I'm eating lots of fatty meat and now Ill be eating veggies. My fat has been only from avocado, nuts, a little fatty fish and a little olive oil. Im going to stop the fish, reduce the avo and nuts to get 10-15%ish fat in my diet and try and replace the protein. That's all.

If you read my thousands of posts, you wont find one where I have criticised another member's right to make a choice.

Back to pressure cooking: I'm not going to because I dont have one, but I will soak my dried legumes etc overnight just because it seems to be part of the vegan experience!
I intend to eat mainly soups with barley or millet or quinoa and roast veggies.

Soap????
lol. I'd love to hear.

I'm really enjoying this discussion. And Ive watched all Barnard and Esseltyn and Campbell's videos as my brother in law is a passionate follower. I might not agree with their interpretation or the selection of evidence they
present, but I support their right to do so.


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