Re: Sinusitis, Biofilms and Biocidin
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:48 pm
I might try it again down the road when I feel my gut is a bit more healed.circular wrote:To stay on it or not to stay on it
I might try it again down the road when I feel my gut is a bit more healed.circular wrote:To stay on it or not to stay on it
I came back here to check this site out a little more. I was getting ready to do another nasal culture and thought I should look into the DNA approach. I found this explanation on their website about biofilms helpful. It seems to say that chronic vs acute infections relate to whether or not there is biofilm (chronic). I'd been calling chronic infections 'colonizations' after seeing that word used that way, but it may be more helpful to say 'biofilm infections'?Bettylacy wrote: ... https://microgendx.com where I did the testing...
Now here is Chris Kresser on biofilms, which makes me think biofilm busters like Biocidin (assuming it does what it's purported to do) could backfire just as abx can, yet he goes on to make suggestions about how to address biofilms (some I haven't heard of):3. Interpretation of the Lab Report - What Does All This Mean?
Detecting multiple species in a sample may be overwhelming, especially seeing species that you do not recognize. We are providing a complete picture of the microorganisms at the site the sample was taken from. If the sample was taken from an area of the host which has an established microbiome, (sinus cavity, mouth) interpretation can be more of a challenge. The following are points you should consider when reviewing our report.
When treating a chronic infection you are dealing with biofilm phenotype.
CDC and NIH “have estimated that biofilm infections now constitute 65% to 80% (respectively) of bacterial infections treated by physicians in the developed world.
All bacteria / microorganisms will move to a biofilm phenotype.
If we detect multiple species from a host site that is normally sterile, there is a high probability you are dealing with a Biofilm.[Emphasis added]
As usual the comments are interesting.Fourth, biofilms might also play a role in the healthy gut, making it difficult to distinguish between pathogenic and healthy communities (4, 7).
Starting to look at my healing path in this light. I, and I'm sure you, have dropped supplements when I felt they accomplished what they needed to do. For example, I've stopped taking curcumin at the moment, because it can negatively affect some other enzymes, like MAO-A. And stopping it has not made my joints worse, or caused other inflammatory issues. I stopped quercetin a while back because it impacts estrogen metabolism, and don't feel like I need it for histamine balance anymore. So, for at least some supplements, we might need to reassess from time-to-time if we need to keep taking them once we get over a particular hump.circular wrote:This is probably part of the protocols and I just never thought about it that way?
Definitely agree and have cut back quite quite a bit on supplements as a trial and to save money. I figure that if I can have such a relapse of my old health issues on the pretty much the same protocol as I used to heal from them, then something else is up. I'm also meditating more and longer, which of course is very helpful. I actually think it will do more for me long term than most supplements.SusanJ wrote: Starting to look at my healing path in this light. I, and I'm sure you, have dropped supplements when I felt they accomplished what they needed to do. For example, I've stopped taking curcumin at the moment, because it can negatively affect some other enzymes, like MAO-A. ... So, for at least some supplements, we might need to reassess from time-to-time if we need to keep taking them once we get over a particular hump.