Lead and Cadmium in Chocolate

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Re: Lead and Cadmium in Chocolate

Postby MarcR » Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:25 pm

circular wrote:If the MADL marks the highest without an observable effect
The MADL is set to be one one-thousandth of the exposure level which would have an observable effect. I see it as the absolutely positively no worries threshold. To be sure it's going to harm you, you have to have 1,000 times as much as the MADL.

Here's the definition from the As You Sow FAQ:
OEHHA has set a maximum allowable daily exposure level (MADL) for lead and cadmium in consumer products. The MADL for a given chemical is otherwise referred to as a “safe harbor level.” The MADL is a level at which a chemical would have no observable effect, even if an individual were exposed to 1,000 times that level. The MADL for lead is set at 0.5 µg/day for lead and cadmium at 4.1 µg/day for cadmium. Exposures levels below established safe harbor levels are exempt from the requirements of Proposition 65.
The "requirements of Proposition 65" is a warning on the product package - if you're so far below a meaningful level of the toxin that you are even below the incredibly cautious MADL threshold, you don't have to warn.

So for lead, we can infer from the 0.5 ug/day MADL that 500 ug/day would have an observable effect. The highest measurement for Endangered Species ND88 per serving (1 oz) was 3.4 ug in 2014. That's seven times the MADL, but it's still only 1/147th of the level that definitely causes harm. So I take my chances. :-)

Thanks for sharing information about the Montezuma product - I'll keep my eyes peeled for it.

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Re: Lead and Cadmium in Chocolate

Postby circular » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:43 pm

MarcR wrote:
circular wrote:If the MADL marks the highest without an observable effect
The MADL is set to be one one-thousandth of the exposure level which would have an observable effect. I see it as the absolutely positively no worries threshold. To be sure it's going to harm you, you have to have 1,000 times as much as the MADL.

Here's the definition from the As You Sow FAQ:
OEHHA has set a maximum allowable daily exposure level (MADL) for lead and cadmium in consumer products. The MADL for a given chemical is otherwise referred to as a “safe harbor level.” The MADL is a level at which a chemical would have no observable effect, even if an individual were exposed to 1,000 times that level. The MADL for lead is set at 0.5 µg/day for lead and cadmium at 4.1 µg/day for cadmium. Exposures levels below established safe harbor levels are exempt from the requirements of Proposition 65.
The "requirements of Proposition 65" is a warning on the product package - if you're so far below a meaningful level of the toxin that you are even below the incredibly cautious MADL threshold, you don't have to warn.

So for lead, we can infer from the 0.5 ug/day MADL that 500 ug/day would have an observable effect. The highest measurement for Endangered Species ND88 per serving (1 oz) was 3.4 ug in 2014. That's seven times the MADL, but it's still only 1/147th of the level that definitely causes harm. So I take my chances. :-)

Thanks for sharing information about the Montezuma product - I'll keep my eyes peeled for it.

Thanks a Marc!

I really like the Montezuma. I also ordered a variation with orange and cocoa nibs on its way from the UK via Amazon. I haven’t yet noticed it in stores here. I might alternate with Endangered Species to shave the new higher cost of my coffee habit some. I get the best price on ES on sale at Fry’s grocery.
ApoE 3/4 > Thanks in advance for any responses made to my posts.

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Re: Lead and Cadmium in Chocolate

Postby eap1992 » Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:24 pm

Has anyone tried anything from eatingevolved brand keto nut butter chocolate bar or keto cups? I checked as you sow and i think my consumer lab membership expired... but i doubt it's on consumer lab (if it is, I'd love to know!).

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Re: Lead and Cadmium in Chocolate

Postby floramaria » Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:40 pm

eap1992 wrote:Has anyone tried anything from eatingevolved brand keto nut butter chocolate bar or keto cups? I checked as you sow and i think my consumer lab membership expired... but i doubt it's on consumer lab (if it is, I'd love to know!).

Hi eap1992, I don’t have access to consumer lab, but when I had access to Evolved brand KetoCups they were my favorite keto snack.
Íd also be interested in knowing how they rate on cadmium and lead levels.
While they are unavailable, I have been making my own version using dark chocolate bar and coconut manna from Nutiva.
Haven’t tried the peanut butter version ( I found recipes by searching for homemade KetoCups )
If you make your own you can use the chocolate of your choice.
Mine taste good but don’t look as nice .
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Re: Lead and Cadmium in Chocolate

Postby circular » Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:35 pm

eap1992 wrote:Has anyone tried anything from eatingevolved brand keto nut butter chocolate bar or keto cups? I checked as you sow and i think my consumer lab membership expired... but i doubt it's on consumer lab (if it is, I'd love to know!).

Sadly I once bought a bag of those keto cups (forget which flavor) and had to throw them away. Didn’t like it enough to even finish the first one. I do sometimes like eating some nuts when I eat my chocolate. They often go in the same bite :)
ApoE 3/4 > Thanks in advance for any responses made to my posts.


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