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Re: Water Fast

Postby Tincup » Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:44 pm

NewRon wrote:Well Tincup, that's good news (for a change)! I know 119 might not sound like a good LDL to many but with the high LDL's I've been seeing recently, I'll take it :)

Now if my Trig/HDL ratio wasn't so high (since the fast, only), I'd break out the (natural) champagne;



My LDL's are the highest ever when sampled at the end of an extended fast.

The data for what is good & bad, etc. are not derived from studies of people doing what you are. I would not worry too my about the numbers. For example, my LDL is high for me when I water fast. However the data on people who are calorie restricted - for example during war - show a significant decrease in heart disease.
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Re: Water Fast

Postby mike » Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:55 pm

I believe that calculation does not work with high TGs. There is another method called Martin/Hopkins that works with high TGs

https://www.medpagetoday.com/cardiology ... emia/73465
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Re: Water Fast

Postby Tincup » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:56 pm

mike wrote:I believe that calculation does not work with high TGs. There is another method called Martin/Hopkins that works with high TGs

https://www.medpagetoday.com/cardiology ... emia/73465


You can download the M/H calculator in Excel format here

With NewRon's data, it comes out LDL-C of 151 md/dL.

In any case, I don't think it is particularly meaningful.
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Re: Water Fast

Postby mike » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:48 am

Tincup wrote:In any case, I don't think it is particularly meaningful.

My original diabetes doctor also agreed. He said you have diabetes, so you will have high cholesterol. Period. He was very into taking supplements that could help with the complications of T2D, instead of just trying to lower A1c. Turns out they were mostly the same supplements this site suggests... And then you add a keto diet full of ingested fats, and what does that do to the equation?
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Re: Water Fast

Postby NewRon » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:44 am

Ok, great thoughts, folks!

Just for clarity, I don't have diabetes :)

I can't seem to find the Hopkins LDL calculator, other than articles that talk about it...am I missing something?

The curious thing is to why my triglycerides exploded by 400%, I think I'll test in a day or two and see if that's still the case. Maybe my macros are too high, Cronometer says my basic metabolic rate id 1570 and I'm taking in between 2,200 and 3,000.....
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