AHNP Precision Health_Lunches ReCode Protocol

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Re: AHNP Precision Health_Lunches ReCode Protocol

Postby NF52 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:04 am

deproduction wrote:I'm curious about other people's experience with AHNP Health.
I paid $1,400 for their ReCODE protocol and it took them several months to get me test results. There was zero personal interaction, just organizing my test results into a report that helps make sense of the results... useful, but certainly not worth $1,400. Most of the same tests I have been able to get from my healthcare provider (Kaiser Permanente) for much less (in some cases, free).
AHNP took 5 or 6 months to get me my report, and asked me for $900 more for their ReVERSE program before the results even came through. I'm somewhat desperate for solutions, so I subsequently agreed to pay for ReVERSE despite my poor experience with ReCODE, and now 3 months later, I've heard nothing from them. I don't think its a scam, by any means, just maybe disorganized.
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Welcome, Tony,

Thank you for sharing your experience with AHNP:Precision Health. As you probably know, this forum is not affiliated with AHNP, even though many of our members may have had training in, or experience with using elements of the "Bredesen Protocol". Many more found this site after reading Dr. Bredesen's book, or finding that they have one or two copies of ApoE 4 through a genetic test.

You have every right to be upset with the poor customer service, especially if no explanation was given for it. You have some options too; one of them is to be the squeaky wheel and write letters to the top people in the company (you can see that on their website), another is to contact consumer protection agencies in AHNP's home state of CA. Since they finally provided the ReCODE report, you would mostly be putting them on notice that for the second round of testing for ReVERSE you expect far better service.

I have friends and family members who have been on Kaiser plans, and have heard from them that their providers have been fairly understanding of the request for labs and other referrals. Since you're "desperate for solutions", have you tried seeing your primary care provider to schedule an in-depth conversation about your concerns? If you have not already shared your results, and you know you have ApoE4, you may want to ask your doctor to keep that information out of your records. Medical insurance and life insurance companies cannot discriminate against you based on a genetic risk, but long-term care companies can choose to use that information in providing coverage. The
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If you are experiencing changes, it may be helpful to share your results with your primary provider and look for clues as to what might be out of balance. Sometimes symptoms that are distressing, like a lack of energy and focus, can be tied to something as easy to fix as low thyroid or Vitamin B-12. If you have significant concerns, you may be able to get comprehensive cognitive, physical and neurological testing paid for by Kaiser at a regional Memory Care Unit, which are usually affiliated with a teaching hospital or major medical center. I have been part of a clinical study as such as center, so I know the kinds of tests given and the people who work there, and have found them deeply supportive to families.

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Re: AHNP Precision Health_Lunches ReCode Protocol

Postby jimcrist » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:37 am

I have a friend in need of the ReCode tests. I've read Bredesen's book and have communicated with AHNP a few months ago. They were a little slow getting back to me, but not too bad. They explained that they were having difficulty keeping up with the demand. Sounds like things have gotten even worse. 5-6 months for the report is unacceptable. Are others having better luck??

Is there a list of the tests they do for ReCode? Is it better to start with the AHNP approach or is it better to find a Bredesen trained doctor and start there? I can't find any Bredesen doctors in Madison, WI, which is disconcerting given it's a bit of a medical mecca. My friend's current neurologist doesn't sound like a Bredesen fan. Why would that be? Thanks for any and all help. This forum seems amazingly useful!!!

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Re: AHNP Precision Health_Lunches ReCode Protocol

Postby slacker » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:32 pm

jimcrist wrote:I have a friend in need of the ReCode tests. I've read Bredesen's book and have communicated with AHNP a few months ago. They were a little slow getting back to me, but not too bad. They explained that they were having difficulty keeping up with the demand. Sounds like things have gotten even worse. 5-6 months for the report is unacceptable. Are others having better luck??

Is there a list of the tests they do for ReCode? Is it better to start with the AHNP approach or is it better to find a Bredesen trained doctor and start there? I can't find any Bredesen doctors in Madison, WI, which is disconcerting given it's a bit of a medical mecca. My friend's current neurologist doesn't sound like a Bredesen fan. Why would that be? Thanks for any and all help. This forum seems amazingly useful!!!


Another member was able to find the list of tests after creating an account with AHNP, but before paying anything. I tried to find their post without luck.

Many Bredesen trained practitioners use telemedicine, so you don't necessarily need to find someone in town.

The CTO of AHNP posted twice to our website in February with apologies; here is his contact information -Lance Kelly, CTO AHNP Precision Health (lance@ahnphealth.com)
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Re: AHNP Precision Health_Lunches ReCode Protocol

Postby deproduction » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:12 am

SamNZ wrote: I thought I might send the web link to this forum page to AHNP so they are aware of issues out there - would that be ok with you?


Yes, I'd appreciate that, thank you!
And thanks for the welcome!
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Re: AHNP Precision Health_Lunches ReCode Protocol

Postby lanceahnp » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:20 pm

deproduction wrote:I'm curious about other people's experience with AHNP Health.
I paid $1,400 for their ReCODE protocol and it took them several months to get me test results. There was zero personal interaction, just organizing my test results into a report that helps make sense of the results... useful, but certainly not worth $1,400. Most of the same tests I have been able to get from my healthcare provider (Kaiser Permanente) for much less (in some cases, free).
AHNP took 5 or 6 months to get me my report, and asked me for $900 more for their ReVERSE program before the results even came through. I'm somewhat desperate for solutions, so I subsequently agreed to pay for ReVERSE despite my poor experience with ReCODE, and now 3 months later, I've heard nothing from them. I don't think its a scam, by any means, just maybe disorganized.
Tony


Dear Tony,

Please accept my sincere apologies for any frustration you’ve encountered with AHNP—and especially with the time it took to receive results for your One-time ReCODE Report.

We are now able to generate these results within a 2-3 week time frame, but when we first offered this option to participants, it took much longer than anticipated, as we worked to streamline the process.

To help you move forward with The Bredesen Protocol, we’d like to offer a phone call with one of our team members who will help you find a practitioner who is a good fit, answer any questions you might have, and discuss a credit to your account.

You should receive an email from us shortly; just let us know the best time and day to reach you along with your time zone and phone number.

We thank you for your time, and we look forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely,

Lance Kelly
CTO, AHNP Health

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Re: AHNP Precision Health_Lunches ReCode Protocol

Postby Julie G » Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:59 am

Here’s an interesting blog post from Josh Mittledorf that explores “Money in Aging Research” and surveys for-profit research centers. AHNP and it’s struggle to meet demand is mentioned. The overall tenor towards AHNP however is decidedly bullish leading me (and hopefully others who are using this general approach with and without AHNP) to feel decidedly optimistic.
I gave up on the stock market years ago, the pride of the mathematician laid low by the surprises of the real world; but if I were a gambling man, I’d bet on Bredesen/Apollo.  There’s a solid core of biochemistry under a mountain of clinical data, and sparked to life with a bit of inspired guesswork.  They are modest (or prudent) enough to claim ‘only’ to have cured Alzheimer’s, but I would be eager to see methylation tests that relate their protocol to the best aging clock we’ve got.

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Re: AHNP Precision Health_Lunches ReCode Protocol

Postby Shadepeace2 » Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:59 am

jimcrist wrote:I have a friend in need of the ReCode tests. I've read Bredesen's book and have communicated with AHNP a few months ago. They were a little slow getting back to me, but not too bad. They explained that they were having difficulty keeping up with the demand. Sounds like things have gotten even worse. 5-6 months for the report is unacceptable. Are others having better luck??

Is there a list of the tests they do for ReCode? Is it better to start with the AHNP approach or is it better to find a Bredesen trained doctor and start there? I can't find any Bredesen doctors in Madison, WI, which is disconcerting given it's a bit of a medical mecca. My friend's current neurologist doesn't sound like a Bredesen fan. Why would that be? Thanks for any and all help. This forum seems amazingly useful!!!



I’ve been using this list. Hope it helps!:

https://www.apoe4.info/wiki/Bredesen_Protocol


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